tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post112808718758905905..comments2023-10-10T14:37:58.307+01:00Comments on ICAEW News: Vote NowKen Frosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13568488818950912374noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1129233409829653972005-10-13T20:56:00.000+01:002005-10-13T20:56:00.000+01:00I think ACCA, ICAEW, ICAS & ICAI should merge. Now...I think ACCA, ICAEW, ICAS & ICAI should merge. Now that would be a dominant voice in global accountancy, in virtually all sectors.<BR/><BR/>It does strike me as odd, when you have the top 20 and lower - training ICAEW, ACCA, ICAS & ICAI yet there is still so much rivalry. Sad really considering the potential!<BR/><BR/>CIPFA are a specialist institute and should be left well alone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1128539215355656672005-10-05T20:06:00.000+01:002005-10-05T20:06:00.000+01:00Sorry, I think I may have my numbers slightly wron...Sorry, I think I may have my numbers slightly wrong. It has been a long day and I am working from memory.<BR/><BR/>CIPFA has £40mm income and ICAEW £50mm and MICA will have £90mm.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1128538156511197822005-10-05T19:49:00.000+01:002005-10-05T19:49:00.000+01:00KamranThe 13,000 CIPFA members bring with them £40...Kamran<BR/><BR/>The 13,000 CIPFA members bring with them £40mm of income. Your 120,000 member institute generates little more than this.<BR/><BR/>By increasing your membership by 11% you increase your income by 55%. I say that is good business by your Council.<BR/><BR/>CIPFA's income generation will ensure the survival of your Institute.<BR/><BR/>Remember, ICAEW proposed marriage to CIPFA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1128529445884023002005-10-05T17:24:00.000+01:002005-10-05T17:24:00.000+01:00I know the rules – you have to maintain your membe...I know the rules – you have to maintain your membership of both bodies (ICAS or ICAI & MICA in this case). Of course, publicly you would not draw attention to your MICA status.<BR/><BR/>Common sense – you have got me there, please explain simply.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1128528730838147082005-10-05T17:12:00.000+01:002005-10-05T17:12:00.000+01:00http://www.icas.org.uk/site/cms/v4_newscategoryvie...http://www.icas.org.uk/site/cms/v4_newscategoryview.asp?chapter=2&type=2009Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1128528591378151402005-10-05T17:09:00.000+01:002005-10-05T17:09:00.000+01:00Read the rules and use a little common sense.Read the rules and use a little common sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1128527344776919762005-10-05T16:49:00.000+01:002005-10-05T16:49:00.000+01:00Anon 3.56It is still a reciprocal agreement, and I...Anon 3.56<BR/><BR/>It is still a reciprocal agreement, and I never said that it was honorary.<BR/><BR/>Secondly, if ICAS, ICAI and ICAEW have honorary membership then why don’t disgruntled ICAEW members simply use their “honorary” card and become ICAS or ICAI members and leave those ICAEW members who do want to merge to get on with forming the Super Institute in the brave new world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1128524913925659262005-10-05T16:08:00.000+01:002005-10-05T16:08:00.000+01:00It was intended for the intelligent and it was a c...It was intended for the intelligent and it was a cohesive and compelling piece.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps Ken should start moderating if the standard of comment is now so low.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1128524426820284352005-10-05T16:00:00.000+01:002005-10-05T16:00:00.000+01:00ICAEW membersSuch long posts - don't you have work...ICAEW members<BR/><BR/>Such long posts - don't you have work to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1128524189820692312005-10-05T15:56:00.000+01:002005-10-05T15:56:00.000+01:00I have just used Google as suggested. To give some...I have just used Google as suggested. To give some exemptions from examinations is not to allow automatic reciprocal membership. <BR/><BR/>ICAS, ICAI and ICAEW have repiciprocal full membership. I should be amazed if ICAS will allow that if MICA appears.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1128523611011667502005-10-05T15:46:00.000+01:002005-10-05T15:46:00.000+01:00anon 3.37Just go to google and put in:icas cipfa r...anon 3.37<BR/><BR/>Just go to google and put in:<BR/><BR/>icas cipfa reciprocal<BR/><BR/>and out pops the research you are looking forAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1128523359680579392005-10-05T15:42:00.000+01:002005-10-05T15:42:00.000+01:00KamranYou should improve on your qualification - d...Kamran<BR/><BR/>You should improve on your qualification - do CIOT instead. Now they are the most prestigious body you could join.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1128523050059016762005-10-05T15:37:00.000+01:002005-10-05T15:37:00.000+01:00I do not believe CIPFA members are entitled to joi...I do not believe CIPFA members are entitled to join ICAS under any reciprocal arrangement.<BR/><BR/>If I am wrong please quote from the ICAS regulations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1128522661034229242005-10-05T15:31:00.000+01:002005-10-05T15:31:00.000+01:00Quite a few members of ICAS are CIPFA too.They hav...Quite a few members of ICAS are CIPFA too.<BR/><BR/>They have a reciopocal agreement, and have done for many years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1128522430342747722005-10-05T15:27:00.000+01:002005-10-05T15:27:00.000+01:00K & K 10 Best of the Rest 0Half time score after ...K & K 10 Best of the Rest 0<BR/><BR/>Half time score after a few own goals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1128522109741690442005-10-05T15:21:00.000+01:002005-10-05T15:21:00.000+01:00Kamran,Most ICAEW members can join ACCA without ta...Kamran,<BR/><BR/>Most ICAEW members can join ACCA without taking exams.<BR/><BR/>You could use that as a temporary measure until you are able to join ICAS.<BR/><BR/>Alternatively, you you try to organise a petition requesting ICAS to admit ICAEW members on the basis that they can never have a vote and that they have to retain ACA or FCA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1128522037460647992005-10-05T15:20:00.000+01:002005-10-05T15:20:00.000+01:00KamranDo not worry over such small details as lett...Kamran<BR/><BR/>Do not worry over such small details as letters etc.<BR/><BR/>Also CIMA will come on board in a few years time after the CIPFA ICAEW merger has been digested and the super institute established.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1128520966124205512005-10-05T15:02:00.000+01:002005-10-05T15:02:00.000+01:00ACCA have lowered their examination standards and ...ACCA have lowered their examination standards and have 320,000 students, most of whom they will eventually admit as members. CIMA have also decimated their examination standards and have 86,000 students. ICAEW and CIPFA have lost the plot and will be prepared to merge with the PDSA.<BR/><BR/>You apply to ICAS and good luck to you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1128520352795178622005-10-05T14:52:00.000+01:002005-10-05T14:52:00.000+01:00No point joining ICAS.When ACCA become the leading...No point joining ICAS.<BR/><BR/>When ACCA become the leading UK accounting body in a few years time, ICAS will merge with MICA - or whatever you call yourselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1128510390777875702005-10-05T12:06:00.000+01:002005-10-05T12:06:00.000+01:00Kamran,Your certificate(s) of membership will be m...Kamran,<BR/><BR/>Your certificate(s) of membership will be meaningless and you may not want and I doubt you will get a new certificate to hang with pride.<BR/><BR/>One poster asked about the new logo - let's all spend freely and impress clients and the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1128506223089179772005-10-05T10:57:00.000+01:002005-10-05T10:57:00.000+01:00KamranThanks for voting, and for your support.Good...Kamran<BR/><BR/>Thanks for voting, and for your support.<BR/><BR/>Good luck with getting a response from "our" institute.<BR/><BR/>I have written around 10 times to them, and have never had a response.<BR/><BR/>Maybe I have been deluding myself over the past 16 years or so, maybe I am not in fact a member?<BR/><BR/>If they do respond, please feel free to post their response here.<BR/><BR/>I would also be very graetful if you could point your friends and colleagues to this site.<BR/><BR/>Many thanks.<BR/><BR/>KenKen Frosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13568488818950912374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1128506116219180062005-10-05T10:55:00.001+01:002005-10-05T10:55:00.001+01:00S Kamran, Well said - I agree.S Kamran, Well said - I agree.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1128506115389909532005-10-05T10:55:00.000+01:002005-10-05T10:55:00.000+01:00incorrect that is!incorrect that is!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1128506069286285262005-10-05T10:54:00.000+01:002005-10-05T10:54:00.000+01:00AnonymousMy point is, that whilst the facts themse...Anonymous<BR/><BR/>My point is, that whilst the facts themselves may not be correct, this is pretty weak PR. <BR/><BR/>Are we supposed to think "hey CIPFA members represent the heart 40% of the GLOBAL ECONOMY. Better vote Yes."<BR/><BR/>I can't see any other reason to include this tripe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9611129.post-1128501272871564232005-10-05T09:34:00.000+01:002005-10-05T09:34:00.000+01:00Noted - read the first of the 54 responses for spe...Noted - read the first of the 54 responses for specific commentary on wild PR claims.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com